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    Paleo uniface scrapers ?

    I found these a few years back by lake Travis. I saw a post by Fishflint in todays finds and thought I have some of those. My question is are these paleo scrapers first off? Is the flaking the most obvious way to tell? Feel free to post your examples of paleo uniface scapers and reasons why they are Paleo.
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    couple more photos
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    If you'll study the paleo unifaces from Gault & similarly reported sites, you won't see many like those. Post-paleo, sometimes, yes. Lots.

    I'm not from/in (or familiar with ) Texas, but somebody local & informed ought to have said something & didn't, so this FWIW.
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    Great scrapers kriseock! I've always wondered what makes a uniface scraper a paleo scraper. This will be a fun thread to wqtch. I have some scrapers I'd like opinions on also. I'll post them at a later date hopefully.
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    Context is the key for finds like these. If you find Paleo related Points there would be a better chance they were Paleo, but these type of Tools were prevalent during the Archaic period as well. Without related Point types to date the site they could be from either culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Valentine View Post
    Context is the key for finds like these. If you find Paleo related Points there would be a better chance they were Paleo, but these type of Tools were prevalent during the Archaic period as well. Without related Point types to date the site they could be from either culture.
    Context is not always spot on .... as I find Archaic pieces in transitional camps. Makes sense to me that there will be a percentage of Paleo in Archaic sites. The area the scrapers were found was a quarry for natives... Littered with blanks and performs. I believe this quarry provided material for paleo through historic times. So unlike projectiles that we I'd primarily from the Base style, scrapers, blanks, preforms, drills without a distinct base can not be IDed without context pieces? Now some scrapers that have a certain style a named (example) San Gabriel bi-face. But these are only SG bi-face if found on or around central TX. Again context. I am thinking there has got to be a dating method to determine when the last significant reduction strikes took place. If not by style,, May be wear or patina or who knows. I work in a laboratory that has SEMs (scanning electrom microscopes) we have X-Ray equipment that can perform CT scans. With technology today I have to imagine that some time soon we will be able to date without using context.
    Any other ideas are welcome also examples of scrapers found with paleo points would be a good start. Thanks for the interest Y'all .
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    Now that's cool! Thanks Uni. Looks like I got to get the big boss to invest in Raman Spectroscopy solutions for our non electronic inspection services group Oh also, If anybody has nice Uni paleo scrapers, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see em....
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    Pastmeetspresent may have some valuable input here.
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