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    Premature certainty is the enemy of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisrock View Post
    Context is not always spot on .... as I find Archaic pieces in transitional camps. Makes sense to me that there will be a percentage of Paleo in Archaic sites. The area the scrapers were found was a quarry for natives... Littered with blanks and performs. I believe this quarry provided material for paleo through historic times. So unlike projectiles that we I'd primarily from the Base style, scrapers, blanks, preforms, drills without a distinct base can not be IDed without context pieces? Now some scrapers that have a certain style a named (example) San Gabriel bi-face. But these are only SG bi-face if found on or around central TX. Again context. I am thinking there has got to be a dating method to determine when the last significant reduction strikes took place. If not by style,, May be wear or patina or who knows. I work in a laboratory that has SEMs (scanning electrom microscopes) we have X-Ray equipment that can perform CT scans. With technology today I have to imagine that some time soon we will be able to date without using context.
    Any other ideas are welcome also examples of scrapers found with paleo points would be a good start. Thanks for the interest Y'all .

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    End Scrapers

    If Im at a show I cant hardly make it home without some of these. I like being early at a show you get better deals.
    Attached Images Attached Images Paleo uniface scrapers ?-sdc13230-jpg Paleo uniface scrapers ?-sdc13233-jpg Paleo uniface scrapers ?-sdc13234-jpg Paleo uniface scrapers ?-sdc13238-jpg 
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    Schweet Haul!!

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    Sweet finds. I guess if your getting paleos out of the piece buckets you are scoring big time. After looking at some of the hot spots Uni put up I think I have a better idea on what paleo end scrapers look like. Those are spot on. Congrats.
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    Thanks Tom
    I did want to add the smaller ones along the top are archaic which I find every once in a while around my area. The bottom 2 left are considered to be Dalton and the thick ones in the middle are the Paleo. Its one of my favorite types but I did purchase those due to I cant find any Paleo around here and very little Dalton.
    To Krisrock if your original question could be answered I would call your tools a Over shot Blade which you could very easy call a Paleo knife if you wanted to and also any of those big blades you dont want let me know.
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    I think the OP blades are certainly paleo. They are exactly like the ones i dig in context with Plainview, golondrina and one maybe even clovis.
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    Yep. Semantics. Depends on how you define "Paleo" and when "Plano"/"Early Archaic" begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uniface View Post
    Yep. Semantics. Depends on how you define "Paleo" and when "Plano"/"Early Archaic" begins.
    True.
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    This tool is mostly uniface. Found on a Late Paleo (Suwannee)/Early Archaic (Bolen) site, on the clay. Not typical Paleo tool type
    Paleo uniface scrapers ?-benttool-1-jpg
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    Paleo uniface scrapers ?-benttool-4-jpg

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