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    "Billions and Billions"

    According to a new study, people who claim that modern-day animals have evolved over millions of years have some rethinking to do. The study examined mitochondrial DNA from thousands of different animal species and humans only to find that virtually all current animal species only date back 100,000 to 200,000 years.

    Mark Young Stoeckle of the Program for the Human Environment at The Rockefeller University and David S. Thaler of the University of Basel authored the study, titled, "Why should mitochondria define species?"

    More approaches have been brought to bear on the emergence and outgrowth of Homo sapiens sapiens (i.e., modern humans) than any other species including full genome sequence analysis of thousands of individuals and tens of thousands of mitochondria, paleontology, anthropology, history and linguistics.The congruence of these fields supports the view that modern human mitochondria and Y chromosome originated from conditions that imposed a single sequence on these genetic elements between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago.
    Study suggests evolution doesn't work the way we thought it did -- Science & Technology -- Sott.net

    Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe chimed in on the finding for the Cosmic Tusk:

    The recent work (1) involving "DNA barcoding" of some five million specimens covering over 100,000 animal species, including humans, has been claimed to yield a result utterly incompatible with Darwinian evolution confined to the Earth. Humans, house sparrows, sandpipers are just a few examples of species that have been found - according to this paper - to display an exceedingly narrow range of genetic diversity, and this data is claimed to be consistent with all the crucial genes of 90 percent of all animal species arriving on the Earth 100,000-200,000 years ago. You could not ask for a more startling demonstration of the validity of the Hoyle-Wickramasinghe model of panspermia that was recently reviewed in an article by Steele et al (2). Evolution can only take place on a scale that vastly transcends the size of our planet, the size of our solar system, even perhaps that of the galaxy. The Earth receives injections of "evolved" genes sporadically from the cosmos at large (3). We now know that there are over 100 billion habitable planets in our galaxy alone so exchanges of material between them is well nigh impossible to avoid. It is only in such a way that all the facts about life on our planet can be understood. Viva Panspermia!
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    I wonder what Carl Sagan would have to say about that?!?!
    Terry (a.k.a. Dances With Dachshunds)

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    Funny how scientists will suggest the virtually impossible idea of life being transported from distant solar systems that may or may not contain anything resembling life on earth rather than admit the possibility that there is a single grand designer . . .

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    "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." (Albert Einstein).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianasmith View Post
    Funny how scientists will suggest the virtually impossible idea of life being transported from distant solar systems that may or may not contain anything resembling life on earth rather than admit the possibility that there is a single grand designer . . .
    I donít think every scientist is ready to hop on board with intergalactic booty calls to explain the degree of genetic diversity on our planet.

    Interestingly enough, Issac Asimov wrote an article critical of the science behind the 1960ís Star Trek tv show when it was originally airing. Later on he and Gene Roddenberry became friends, and Gene fleshed out some of the backstories and details in the Star Trek series to at least sound more scientific. One of them was creating actual languages (Klingon) vs just having actors make sounds. Another one of the stories was about an ancient Humanoid race in our galaxy that seeded genetic material millions of years ago that eventually became Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, Kardassians, etc. as a way of explaining why all of the creatures had two arms, two legs, approx 5 fingers, brain in the head, etc.

    It would be funny that a story line used to explain why 1960ís TV aliens looked like people turned out to be an almost real scientific theory...

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    Hardly without precedent --

    "Jonathan Swift was an Irish clergyman and social and political commentator, best known for his satirical fantasy Gulliver's Travels, originally entitled Travels into Several Remote Nations of the World in Four Parts ... by Lemuel Gulliver (1726), in which reference is made to two (then undiscovered) moons of Mars. The astronomers on the flying island of Laputia, says Gulliver, have

    ... discovered two lesser stars, or satellites, which revolve around Mars, whereof the innermost is distant from the center of the primary exactly three of his diameters, and the outermost five: the former revolves in the space of ten hours, and the latter in twenty-one and a half.

    "When the two Martian moons, Phobos and Deimos, were eventually found, by Asaph Hall at the US Naval Observatory, their orbits proved to be quite similar to those described in Swift's novel."

    Jonathan Swift and the moons of Mars
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    I always liked the story of the Titan and the Titanic:

    The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility - Wikipedia

    THE TITANIC BEFORE THE TITANIC

    On the other hand, I'm told if you sit a monkey down at a typewriter(or I guess a keyboard nowadays), and give him a few million years, eventually he'll type the collected works of Shakespeare.

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    So, if I only had enough monkeys & a clever enough technology, my music company could compose Beethoven's Tenth?

    Not, IMHO. How many "billions and billions" of tries would it take the monkeys to type the url of this thread & hit "enter," even if I spotted them the computer & the internet ?

    That whole idea reminds me of a guy who figures he could make a living by winning at the casino if somebody'd only stake him.
    Premature certainty is the enemy of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uniface View Post
    So, if I only had enough monkeys & a clever enough technology, my music company could compose Beethoven's Tenth?

    Not, IMHO. How many "billions and billions" of tries would it take the monkeys to type the url of this thread & hit "enter," even if I spotted them the computer & the internet ?

    That whole idea reminds me of a guy who figures he could make a living by winning at the casino if somebody'd only stake him.
    Reminds me of a dear old friend, who, for two years, made enough of a living off the Nevada casinos to keep a roof over his head and food in his tummy. Never got rich, mind you, but enough to survive for two years before returning home to Ma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianasmith View Post
    Funny how scientists will suggest the virtually impossible idea of life being transported from distant solar systems that may or may not contain anything resembling life on earth rather than admit the possibility that there is a single grand designer . . .
    Not sure why one ( a single grand designer . . .) would necessarily exclude the other (life being transported from distant solar systems)...seems to me "a single grand designer" could pretty much do anything it wanted, up to and including life transport.
    Geocentrism seems a bit...small.
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