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    Any Cumberland experts out there?

    Iím eyeballing this Cumberland and considering buying it. It looks good to me, but lím not an expert. Davis paper, found in Kentucky. It looks like itís been sharpened a few times, and has minor damage. I consider these good signs, but know shrewd fakers add these details to heighten the sense of authenticity.
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    Thats a nice looking point I dont see a lot of stain so its probably a dirt find. Hornstone flint?
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    The seller says Sonora/ Carter flint. It looks legit to me but I'm paranoid about buying online.

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    Suggestive value (if any) only :

    Gramley's big work on them notes that, in SE Kentucky, Cumberland used Ft. Payne; Sonora was easily available a few miles away but only Clovis used it. One illustrated point (cover) was ID'd as possibly Paoli ("Carter"/"Carter Caves").

    Elsewhere G has noted the discrepancy between the many purported Cumberlands of Hornstone offered for sale and the scarcity of such in his survey of them.

    My own step one, since you're asking for opinions, would be to send it to Brian (pastmeetspresent here) for a make-it-or-break-it diagnostic exam.

    Others might disagree. Which is about normal with opinions.
    Premature certainty is the enemy of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uniface View Post
    My own step one, since you're asking for opinions, would be to send it to Brian (pastmeetspresent here) for a make-it-or-break-it diagnostic exam.
    Working on a commission basis?

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    Working on a commission basis?
    Simple honesty.

    It isn't extinct yet despite efforts to mischaracterise it.
    Premature certainty is the enemy of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuaream View Post
    Working on a commission basis?
    Vague character assassinations don't really add much to the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uniface View Post
    Simple honesty.

    It isn't extinct yet despite efforts to mischaracterise it.
    Well, the only mischaractization in this thread is that the laser, as used here, is a valid dating method.

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    the only mischaractization in this thread is that the laser, as used here, is a valid dating method.
    You should add the qualifier, "In my personal opinion . . ." That way you're covered.

    Without it, you are directly refuted by too many archaeologists who know and understand what's involved. Beginning with Michael Gramley, the dean of NE USA paleo authorities.

    In MY personal opinion, if you were more concerned with the science involved, and less consumed by dark suspicions centered on money, your contributions to threads like this would be of much greater value. That way you wouldn't be impersonating someone living in denial.
    Premature certainty is the enemy of understanding.

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    To get back to the question.....any Cumberland experts out there?
    sounds like this point hasnít been purchased yet.......canít send something to a ďexpertĒ if it isnít in hand.
    Not going for sarcasm here.
    Last edited by major flaker; 10-10-2018 at 09:10 PM.

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